Who was karna ????as per Mahabharata he has no previous birth because he is celestial ☀

The gods fought on both sides I think myself he was a creation of narayan he has asth ratni body like all adityas and avatars note even arjuna was ashratni because he is not a ansh avatar only parshuram krishna and balram with karna including

He had eyes like hrishikesha eyes of sun he has lotus feet and divine hair he was sarvgunsampan and resembled the destroyer himself in battle when angry but that’s a story for later he was the creation of narayan born for a divine purpose to teach different prospects of life

As per mahabharat he was not ❌ ansh essence but expansion (avatar) of surya

Proving concept of expansion there is no incarnation in hinduism all avatars are A expansion of narayan with different personalities and different roles to full fill also note all avatars have free will

All these personalities are the opulent expansions of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Visnu, in the form of the sun-god. These deities take away all the sinful reactions of those who remember them each day at dawn and sunset.

According to vedas suryanarayan expansion of vishnu narayan himself

The twelve Adityas are nothing but different forms of the Sun-God Surya. In different Puranas their names are given differently. Brahma once recounted to the sages the one hundred and eight sacred names of Surya. The Brahma Purana lists these names and we reproduce them in nine groups of twelve names each.

(1) Surya, Archana, Bhagavana, Tvashta, Pusha, Arka, Savita, Ravi, Gabhastimana, Aja, Kala, Mrityu.

(2) Dhata, Prabhakara, Prithivi, Jala, Teja, Akasha, Vayu, Parayana, Soma, Brihaspati, Shukra, Budha.

(3) Angaraka, Indra, Vivasvana, Diptamshu, Shuchi, Shouri,Shanaishvara, Brahma, Vishu, Rudra, Skanda, Vaishravana.

(4) Yama, Vaidyuta, Jathara, Agni, Aindhana, Tejohapti, Dharmadhvaja, Vedakarta, Vedanga, Vedavahana, Krita, Treta.

(5) Dvapara, Kali, Sarvasurashraya, Kala, Kashtha, Muhurta, Kshapa, Yama, Kshana, Samvatsara, Ashvattha, Kalachakra.

(6) Vibhavasu, Shashvata, Purusha, Yogi, Vyaktavyakta, Sanatana, Kaladhyaksha, Prajadhyaksha, Vishvakarma, Tamonuda, V

Acc to yajurveda

All these personalities are the opulent expansions of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Visnu, in the form of the sun-god. These deities take away all the sinful reactions of those who remember them each day at dawn and sunset.”

In each month of the year, it is a different aditya who shines. As Indra, Surya destroys the enemies of the gods. As Dhata, he creates living beings. As Parjanya, he showers down rain. As Tvashta, he lives in the trees and herbs. As Pusha, he makes foodgrains grow. As Aryama, he is in the wind. As Bhaga, he is in the body of all 0living beings. As Vivasvana, he is in fire and helps to cook food. As Vishnu, he destroys the enemies of the gods. As Amshumana, he is again in the wind. As Varuna, Surya is in the waters and as Mitra, he is in the moon and in the oceans.

according to vedas out of 1008 names of narayana 108 represented surya

So surya expands himself like he did with adityas the same thing he did when he expands himself to give heat in space and to live on earth

This is what vedvyas said to kunti

Vedvyas told kunti, the shloka….

” Dvidhakrtvatmano deham adityam tapasa varam lokams cha tapayanam vai viddhi karnam cha sobhane yash cha vairartham udbhutah samgharsajananas tatha.”

[ meaning : The foremost of heat-giving ones, viz., Surya, having divided his body in twain, continued with one portion to give heat to the worlds and with another to live (on Earth.) as Karna. ]

Here is what again in striparv is mentioned

The foremost of heat-giving ones, Surya, having divided his body in

two, continued with one portion on to give heat to the worlds and with another to live (on Earth.)as karna

Will be exposing fake stories and folk tales later here is birth birth of karna as per shikhand puran

Surya is one among 11 Adityas and son of Sage Kashyap and Aditi is an important deity. Surya got married to Sanjya [ also called Sangya/Sanjana] daughter of Demigod Architect Vishwakarma.
Sanja bore two sons , Shani , Yama and one daughter Yamuna [ who later became river] , thereafter she couldn’t bear radiance of Surya and went for penance , while leaving for penance she created her image from shadow and instructed her to look after her husband [Surya] and children in her absence. Chhaya gave birth to Tapti[ who later became river] and Savarni Manu [ The first human ]. Initially Chhaya looked after and loved Sanja’s children as her own but later when she given birth to her own children , she started being partial. Shani being eldest of his siblings was very stubborn kid , he got agitated by partial attitude of Chhaya towards him and his siblings [Yama and Yamuna]. On seeing his mother holding young manu in her arms , Shani got jealous of his brother manu and tried to pull him down. Chaya scolded Shani and asked him to behave , and in a fit of anger he raised his feets to hit his mother. Chhaya got furious of the actions of Shani and immidiately cursed him to be born as mortal human , and suffer for his karma in his life in Dwapaar Yuga. She said since you tried to pull your younger brother from my arm out of jealously and just to seek my attention may you be deserted by your human mother and be alienated from your siblings. You are so proud to be son of Powerful Devtaa , may you be born to unwed woman ,face public disgrace , suffer misfortune , your human siblings unaware of your identity will hate you and never respect you , since you are jealous of your younger brother Manu.

Shani was shocked by the curse and cried , ran to his father and narrated him the whole incident sobbing complaining that “Mother doesn’t loves me neither she treats us equally , so I tried to hit her in anger it was my mistake , mother got angry at this and has cursed me. Please forgive me and free me from mothers’ curse”

Surya replied to Shani that a mother would never curse her child despite of 1000 crimes and that he cannot undo the curse of Mother but in his next birth as human, he will be fathered by Surya himself , he will retain some of his devta like attributes in his human incarnation but will suffer a lot , has to face condemnation and bad luck through out his life and will be liberated of Manushya Yoni by 8th avtara of Lord Vishnu.

Source : Kashi Section , Skandha Puraan

There is another account of Lord Shani’s involvement in Mahabharat . In Shani Mahatmya , Lord Shani while speaking to Kali Yugan King Vikramadiyaa tells him that did not spared even Lord Krishna.
When Lord Shani entered in horoscope of Lord Krishna. People blamed Lord Krishna for stealing Syamantak Mani and killing Satrajit , when Lord Krishna realized this he worshipped Shanidev , he removed his gaze and asked Lord Krishna that he will come out of the false allegations.
Lord Krishna asked Shani that in upcoming great war between Kauravas and Pandavas which is the side that upholds dharma at this Shani replied “Pandavas”. Lord Krishna requested him to favour Pandavs . Shani has given an interesting reply ” I and Yama are two judges. I deliver fruit of ones’ deeds through ones’ life through the punishment and rewards while Yama grants fruit of one’s deeds after death. Since am living curse of my mother in my human incarnation and my human incarnation is great friends with Duryodhana , I am governed by laws of karma so I can’t influence the outcome of war directly or indirectly as my human incarnation has to take part in the war but as you are supreme lord I cannot deny your request and hence I am in crisis , whether to follow the duty or deny the request of lord. Since you are Ultimate Lord , please free me from this crisis situation”

Lord Krishna smiled at this and replied Shani that he will get him liberated from crisis and also ensure that his amshavatara attains salvation.

Source : Shani Mahatamya , Shreemad Bhagwat Puaranam

It is evident from above two stories that Shani was born as Karna in human form. As cursed by his mother he was immediately abandoned by Kunti , he suffered through out his life he was humiliated by Kripacharya , Dronacharya his own brothers and society. He was unfortunate to bag another 2 curses in his human life and hence Chhayas’ word came true that he will suffer misfortune through his life.

Although above stories are not mentioned by Sage Vyaas in Mahabharat yet it seems quite likely that Karna is Shani’s incarnation since many other characters of Mahabharat , like Bhishma, Draupadi,Ashwatthama, Pandu were in fact cursed souls. Karna had some attributes of Shani Deva like spirituality , generosity etc. Even though being in company of evil Duryodhana Karna didn’t leave his devotion and spiritual qualities.

As Krishna’s promise to Shani , Krishna freed Shani out of intervention by putting Karna in to crisis situation. When he was coming back from Hastinapur after negotiations failed , he disclosed identity of Karna. This is where the Karna refuses to join Pandav side by deserting Duryodhan. He cited reason about “Mitra Dharma” later when Kunti asks Karna not to kill the Pandavas , he gives a diplomatic answers that she will always be mother of five sons.

Thus Karna took beautiful decision , he did not violate “Mitra Dharm” and was able to follow his “Putra Dharm” by sacrificing his life just to keep his words which he had given to his mother.

As per shikhand purana shani was supposed to be born as Karna in dwaparyuga

Also do note Shani didn’t have an avatar

As per padma puran brahma created narayan and narayan created surya so indirectly surya is karna since padma is a concept based on manusmriti

135–140 of Padma Puran.

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ORIGIN OF SVEDHAJA

कर्थत्रिपुराषाजातोह्­योजुन: परविरह
कर्थकर्णस्तुकानिन: सुतज: परिक्यति ।। 1
वरंतयो: कर्थभुतनिसगदिवतद्वद
ब्रहत्कौतुहलभंह्यंतद­्ववानवक्तुमर्हति ।। 2
पुलस्त्यउवाच छिनेवकोपुराब्रह्माक्­रोधेनमहताव्रत:
ललाटेस्वेदमुत्पनग्री­हात्वाताडयध्वी ।। 3
स्वेदत: कुण्डलिशेधनुष्कोमहेष­ुधि:
सहस्त्रकवचीवीरा: किकरोमोत्युवाचह ।। 4
तमुवाचविरिँचस्तुदर्श­यब्रुद्रमोजसा
हन्यातमेषदुर्बुध्दिर­्जायतेनयथापुनह ।। 5
ब्रह्मोसोवचनंश्रुतुव­ाधनुरुध्यमप्रष्ठत:
संम्प्रतस्थेमहेशस्या­वहस्तौतिरोद्रद्क ।। 6
द्रुष्टापुरुषमत्युग्­रभीतस्तस्यत्रिलोचन
सपक्रान्तस्तोवेवेगाद­्विस्योराशममभ्यगात ।। 7­
त्राहित्राहितिमाविष्नोरादस्माचत्रुहनं
ब्रह्मायानिर्मित: पापोम्लेच्छरुपोभंयकर­ ।। 8
यथाहन्यान्यमाक्रुध्द­स्थाकुरुजगत्पते
हुँकारध्वानिनाविष्णु­र्मोहयित्वातुंतनरम ।। 9
श्रद्रश्य:सर्वभुताना­योगात्माविश्र्वद्रक्­रप्रभु:
तत्रप्राप्तविरुपातसा­त्व यामास केशव: ।। 10
ततसपुतोभुमोद्रष्टदेव­ेनाविष्णुना

Translation:

Once during a quarrel between Siva and Brahma, the former nipped off Brahma’s head. Some drops of sweat appeared on the forehead of the angry Brahma, and from the sweat which Brahma wiped with his hand arose a legendary archer wearing a thousand shields, bow and quiver. That person was Svedaja. He asked Brahma what he should, do and the former granted him permission to destroy Siva. He then approached Siva with bow drawn and the frightened Siva ran to Visnu and sought refuge. Svedaja followed Siva and when Vimu, seeing him, raised a loud noise `Hum’. Siva prostrated at Visnu’s feet.

विष्णुरुवाच
पौत्रोहिमेभवानुद्रकं­तेकार्मकरोम्यहम ।। 11
द्रष्टनारायणदेवंभिचा­देहित्योवाचह
कपालंदर्शयित्वाग्रेप­्रज्वलस्तेजेसोत्कटम ।।12
कपालंपाश्रीप्रेक्ष्य­रुद्रंविष्नुरंचितयत
कोन्योयोग्योभवेध्दीक­्षुरभिक्षादानस्यासापतम् ।। 13
योग्योयमितिसंकल्यपदक­षिणभुजमपर्यत
तद्विभेदातितीच्शेनशु­लेनशशिशेखर ।। 14
प्रावर्ततततोधाराशोणि­तस्योविभोभुर्जात
जाबुनदरसाकारावह्यिनज­्वालेनिर्मिता ।। 15
निपपातपांलातश्शमुनास­ाप्राभिक्षिता
श्र्रज्वीवेगवतीतीवाश­ँप्रतीतवांबरजंवात् ।। 16
पंचाशघ्योजनादैर्ध्या­द्विरस्ताराद्दशयोजना
दिव्यवर्षसंहस्त्रासा­समुवहाहरेभुर्जात् ।। 17
इयतंकालमीशोसौभित्ताजग्राहमिच्छुक
दत्तानारायणेनायकापालेपात्रउत्तमे ।। 18
ततोनारायण प्राहशंभुपरमिदवथ
संपुर्णवानवापात्रतातोवैपरमीश्वर ।। 19
सतोयाबुदनिर्घोषश्रृत्वावाक्यहरेर्हर
शरिरसुर्याग्रिनयन शरिरौरवरशोभीत ।। 20
कपालेदृष्टीमावेश्यत्रिभीनेप्रेर्जनार्दनम
त्र्यंगुल्याघटयम्प्र­ाहकपालंपरिपूरितम्‌ ।। 21
श्रुत्वाशिवस्यतांवाख­िँविष्णुर्धारासमाहरत­म्‌
पश्तोथहरेरिश:स्वांगु­ल्यारुधिरंतदा ॥ 22
दिव्यवर्षससहस्रंचदृष­्टिपातैर्ममदस:
मध्यमानेततोरेक्तेककल­िलंबुद्‌बुदंक्रमात्‌­ ॥ 23
बभूवचतत:पश्चात्किरीट­ीसशरासन:
बद्धतूखीरयोगलोवृषस्क­ंधोङ्‌गुलित्रवान्‌॥ 24
पुरुषोवन्हिसंकाश:कपा­लेसंप्रदृश्यते
तंदृष्टाभगवान्विष्खु­:प्राहरुद्रमिदंवच ॥ 25
कपालेभवकोवाऽयप्रादुर­्भूतोभवन्नर:
वच:श्रुत्वाहरेरीसस्त­मुवाचविभोश्रृखु ॥ 26
नरोनामेषपुरुष:परमास्­वविदांवर
भवतोक्तोनरईतिनरस्तस्­माभ्दविष्यति ॥ 27
नरनारायखौचोभौयुगेख्य­ातौभविष्यत:
संग्रामेदेवकार्येषुल­ोकानांपरिपालने ॥ 28
एषनारायखसरवोनरस्तस्म­ाभ्दविष्यति
भ्रथासुरवधेखाह्यंतवक­र्तामहाद्युति ॥ 29
मुनिर्‌ज्ञानपरीनायां­जेतालोकेभविष्यति
तेजोधिकमिदंदिव्यंब्र­ह्मख:पंचमंसिर ॥ 30
तेजसोब्रह्मखोदीप्ताभ­्दुजस्यतवशोखितात्‌
ममदृष्टिनिपाताज्ञत्र­ीखितेजांसियानितु ॥ 31
तत्संयोगसमुत्पन्न:शत­्रुंयुद्धेविजेष्यति
भ्रवध्यायेभविष्यंतिद­ुर्जस्रपिचापरे ॥ 32
शक्रस्यचामराखांचतेषा­मेषभयंकर:
एवमुक्तत्वास्थित:शंभ­ुर्विस्मितश्चहरिस्तद­ा ॥ 33
कपालस्थ:सतत्रैवतुष्ट­ावहरकेशवौ:
शिरस्यंजलिमाश्चयतदाव­ीरउदारधी ॥ 34
किँकरौमीतितौप्राहइत्­युक्तवाप्रखत:स्थित:
तमुवाचहर:श्रीमान्‌ब्­रह्मखास्वेनतेजसा ॥ 35
सृष्टोनुरोधनुष्पाखिस­्त्वमेनंतुनिषूदय
इत्थमुक्तवांजलिधरंस्­तुर्यवंशंकरोनरम्‌ ॥ 36
तथैर्वाजलिसंबद्धंगृह­ीत्वाचकरद्रयम्‌
उद्धयाथकपालातंपुनर्व­चनमब्रवीत्‌ ॥ 37
सएषपुरुषौरौद्रोयोमया­वेदितस्तव
विष्खुहुंकरारथितमोहन­िद्रांप्रवेशित: ॥ 38
विबौधयैनंत्वरितमिल्य­ुक्त्वान्तर्दधेहर:
नारायखस्यप्रत्यच्नंन­रेखानैनवैतदा ॥ 39
वामपादहत:सोपितमुतस्थ­ौमहाश्रल:

एवमुक्तत्वास्थित:शंभ­ुर्विस्मितश्चहरिस्तद­ा ॥ 33
कपालस्थ:सतत्रैवतुष्ट­ावहरकेशवौ:
शिरस्यंजलिमाश्चयतदाव­ीरउदारधी ॥ 34
किँकरौमीतितौप्राहइत्­युक्तवाप्रखत:स्थित:
तमुवाचहर:श्रीमान्‌ब्­रह्मखास्वेनतेजसा ॥ 35
सृष्टोनुरोधनुष्पाखिस­्त्वमेनंतुनिषूदय
इत्थमुक्तवांजलिधरंस्­तुर्यवंशंकरोनरम्‌ ॥ 36
तथैर्वाजलिसंबद्धंगृह­ीत्वाचकरद्रयम्‌
उद्धयाथकपालातंपुनर्व­चनमब्रवीत्‌ ॥ 37
सएषपुरुषौरौद्रोयोमया­वेदितस्तव
विष्खुहुंकरारथितमोहन­िद्रांप्रवेशित: ॥ 38
विबौधयैनंत्वरितमिल्य­ुक्त्वान्तर्दधेहर:
नारायखस्यप्रत्यच्नंन­रेखानैनवैतदा ॥ 39
वामपादहत:सोपितमुतस्थ­ौमहाश्रल:

Translation:

Siva extended the skull in his hand towards Vishnu requesting something to be given to him. Mahavishnu, who had nothing else to give Siva, put his right hand into the skull as alms, Siva wounded the hand with his Sala (three-pronged weapon) and pure red blood began flowing from the hand into the skull. The blood continued flowing for a thousand years in a length of fifty yojanas and thickness of ten yojanas. At the end of the period, Vishnu asked whether the skull was not filled yet, and looking into the skull with his three eyes Siva answered that it was full. Then Vishnu stopped the flow of blood, and Siva, in the presence of Vishnu, looked into the blood for a thousand years and stirred it with his hand. The blood gradually turned into bubble and a person possessing thousands of hands arose and as growing as fire appeared in skull. He had crown on his head and he held in his hand a bow and a quiver. He wore gloves on his hands. That was Raktaja. Incarnated as Nara. Looking at Raktaja, Siva told Visnu thus: “This master in archery is Nara. You spoke Nara, and let his name, therefore be Nara. Oh Narayana, you both will be called Naranarayarras. This Nara will be of help to you on behalf of the Dev as and also in the sustenance and protection of the world. He will further help you to kill the Asuras. Nara, the great intellectual that he is, will become a Muni, of surpassing wisdom. Brahma’s divine fifth head possesses so much of effulgence. Nara is created from that effulgence and also from the blood from your hands and my look at it. He will annihilate all enemies in war. He will be a terror to those persons who cannot be conquered by you, Indra and the other Devas.
While Visnu stood there amazed Raktaja praised him and Siva with folded hands and asked from the skull what he should do. Then Siva ordered him thus – “You kill Svedaja created by Brahma with his own effulgcnce.” And Siva led Raktaja out of the skull by his hands and told him again:- “Look, here lies the terrible person I spoke about made unconscious by the cry of “Hum’ by Visnu. Awake him immediately.” After having said this Siva disappeared. Nara, in the presence of Narayana, kicked the unconscious Svedaja with his left foot, and he came out of his

यदुनातुकुलेभावीशुरोनाममहाबल
तस्यवुकन्यापृथानामरुपेक्षाप्रतिभाभुवि ।। 50
उत्पस्यतीमहाभागदेवानाकार्यसिद्धये
दुर्वासास्तुवरतस्येमंत्रग्रामपदस्याती ।। 51
मंत्रगानेनवंदेवभक्ताग्रावाहयिष्यती
देवितस्यप्रसादातुतवपुत्रोवीष्यासी ।। 52
साबत्वामृदयेद्रदृष्टासाभिलाशारजस्वला
चिंताभीपन्नातीष्ठतीभजितव्याविभावसो ।। 53
तस्यागर्भेत्वयंभावीकानीन: कुंतिनंदन
भविष्यातीदेवोदेवकार्याथसिद्धते ।। 54
तथेतीयोक्त्वाषौवाचतेजारार्शिदिवाकर
पुत्रमुत्पादयिष्यामीकानिनबलगर्वीतम ।। 55
यस्यकर्णतिवैनामलोक: सर्वेवदिष्यती
मत्प्रसादादस्यवीविष्योविप्राणाभवितात्मन ।। 56

Translation:

Afterwards Vishnu directed Aditya (Sun) and Akhandala (Indra) to look after Raktaja and Svedaja. He told further: — “At the end of the Dvapara Yuga you should see that Svedaja is reborn, in the interests of the Devas, as your son. In the Yadu dynasty will be born a very powerful fellow called Sura and he will have a very beautiful daughter named Pritha. Durvasa will advise her some Mantras as a boon and she will have some sons from the Devas whom she will invoke with the Mantras. With that object in view, while in her periods, she would, at the time of dawn gaze at you with love. Then he (Svedaja) will be born as the son called Vasusena of Kunti, the virgin.”
The Sun-God agreed to obey the above instructions of Vishnu and told him further, “I shall procreate in the virgin Kunti a very powerful and valiant son who will become well-known in the world as Karna. He will gift away all wealth to the Bramhanas.” After saying this Surya disappeared.

So Karna was was an incarnation of the creater himself !!!!

Now exposing fake story of karna being dambhodava here is whole story of dambhodava

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Section – XCVIKing Dambhodbhava, still desirous of

battle, repeatedly summoned those

Rishisto fight. Nara, then, O Bharata,

taking up a handful of grass-blades, s

‘Desirous of battle as thou art, come,

Kshatriya, and fight! Take up all thy artand array thy troops. I will curb thy

eagerness for battle hereafter!’

Dambhodbhava then said, If, 0 ascetio

thou thinkest this weapon of thine fit t

be used against us, I shall fight with th

though thou mayest use that weapon,

I have come hither desirous of fighting

Saying this, Dambhodbhava with all hi

troops, desirous of slaying that asceti

covered all sides with a shower ofarrows. That ascetic, however, by mea

of those blades of grass, baffled all th

terrible shafts of the king that were

capable of mangling the bodies of hos

warriors. The invincible Rishi then let

towards the king his own terrible wea

made of grass-blades and which was

incapable of being counteracted. And

highly wonderful was that which

happened, for that ascetic, incapable

missing his aim, pierced and cut off

And beholding the entire welkin whitened

by those grass-blades, the king fell at the

feet of the Rishi and said, ‘Let me be

blessed! Ever inclined to grant protection

unto those that sought it, Nara then, O

king, said unto that monarch, ‘Beobedient to the Brahmanas and bevirtuous. Never do so again. O king, O

tiger among monarchs, a conqueror of

hostile towns, a Kshatriya mindful of the

duties of his own or, should never, within

even his heart, be as thou art. Filled with

pride, never insult anybody on any

occasion, be inferior or superior to thee.Even such conduct would befit thee.Acquiring wisdom, abandoning

covetousness and pride, controlling thy

soul, restraining thy passions, practising

forgiveness and humility, and becoming

amiable, O king, go, and cherish thy

subjects. Without ascertaining the

strength and weakness of men, never

insult any one under any circumstances.

Blessed be thou, and with our leave, gohence, and never again behave in this

way. At our command, enquire thou

always of the Brahmanas as to what is

for thy good!

The king then, worshipping the feet of

those two illustrious Rishis, returned to

his city, and from that time began to

practise righteousness

DemonDambodbhava didn’t posses even singlarmour. So the name Sahastrakavach is

fictionalDambodbhava was easily defeated by

Nara-narayana. He was not devotee of

Lord surya but after defeat,Dambodbhava became devotee ofNarayanaThe story of Dambodbhava ended here

Happy EndingDo you find here even name of Karna?

Arjuna fans as long as they don’t abuse Karna and call him things will not be able to digest food since they are sooo desperate to prove superiority of arjuna

The only place you will find fake stories like these in later added editions of Mahabharata like brighupuran gita Or purana bhagwat gita was never about philosophy it was all about dharma karma kartavya and what was arjunas kartavya dharma and karma that was of a kshtriya many things added later in gita because it was only a single shloak the first gita gyan was given to manu by  surya second time to hanuman in ramayan many times many fake stories and fairy tales so it doesn’t matter only thing that  matters what you think??